Sometimes Dead is Better

Halloween (1978) and a true Halloween murder: The evil is gone!

'Tis the season for the 1978 classic Halloween! ('Cause it is always in season). People may be putting up their Christmas trees and Menorahs, but Chris and Christin discuss the incompetence of Dr. Sam Loomis, Michael Myers's driving skills and scream queen Jaime Lee Curtis. Grab a pumpkin beer (if you can find one) and join them!

Then Christin tells Chris a terrible true crime murder that happened on Halloween night.

What they have been watching: Castle Rock season 2, The Joker, Billy on the Street

What they are drinking: Cahaba Brewing Oktoberfest red ale

Movie discussion starts at: 8:30

True crime discussion starts at: 1:03:09

Theme song by Gabbie Watts. Follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

 Sources:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/was-the-movie-halloween-based-on-true-events.html/

http://jclass.umd.edu/archive/newshoax/casestudies/crime/CrimeHalTim7.html

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Ed Gein: My family’s always been in meat

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1974 classic The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They discuss the movie's influence on Ridley Scott's Alien, who's dating who in the group of friends and whether the family was just "standing their ground". Then Christin turns Chris's stomach with the true story of the Butcher of Plainfield, Ed Gein. 

Movie discussion starts at: 13:58

True crime discussion starts at: 1:19:02

CW: violence, violence against women, murder

What they have been watching: Breaking Bad rewatch, El Camino, The Politician

What they are drinking: Arch Rival Cabernet

Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

 Sources:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Texas_Chain_Saw_Massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

https://allthatsinteresting.com/ed-gein-house

Podcast episode: Stuff You Should Know: Ed Gein: The Serial Killer's Serial Killer

Podcast episode: Paranormal Chicks: Ep 61-Reupholstering with Ed Gein

The Shining and a tale of survival: God I’d give anything for a drink

Darling? Light of my life. In this episode Chris and Christin welcome a very special guest! Fellow Atlanta stand up comic Julie Marateck! Julie has chosen one of her (and Chris and Christin's) favorite movies, Stanley Kubrick's 1980 horror masterpiece: The Shining. They discuss what first scared Julie, themes of misogyny and race in the movie and theories of the documentary Room 237.

Then Christin tells Chris and Julie an incredible true story of survival in the Utah snow. Have Lloyd bring you a fresh bourbon and join them!

CW: murder, mental illness, child abuse

What they have been watching: The Stand (now on Bluray) and Unbelievable on Netflix

What they are drinking: Eagle Rare single  barrel bourbon

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

 Sources:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sisters-survive-deadly-attack-at-utah-cabin/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-tiede-case-two-killers-two-outcomes-justice-served/

Mindhunter Season 2 and so many serial killers: Take a f**king Valium

In this episode (first time two parter!) Chris and Christin continue to objectify Johnathan Groff and Holt McCallany. They also discuss the 2nd season of Mindhunter! They discuss all the serial killers in this season (so many!) plus the brilliant portrayal Manson, the disappointment in Dr. Wendy Carr's storyline and the podcast Atlanta Monster. Get another glass of white wine from that hot bartender and join them!

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/little/readings/crucifixion.html

https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/mindhunter-netflix-real-serial-killers.html

Podcast Atlanta Monster

Mindhunter Season 1: The only mistake I made was ever doubting myself

In this episode (part one of two!) Chris and Christin dive into season 1 of the Netflix tv show Mindhunter. This time Christin is just a stone's through from about 10 true crimes. They discuss the sweetness of Johnathon Groff, the ruggedness of Holt McCallany and the fierceness of Anna Torv. They also talk about each sequence killer? No, serial killer. They also discuss what the cat and Dr. Wendy Carr actually means (probably for too long) and how wonderful Robert Downey Jr. is in Zodiac. Grab your white wine and join them!

What they have been watching: Ready or Not (2019) and When They See Us (Netflix)

What are they drinking: Menage a trois pinot grigio

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources:

https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/mindhunter-netflix-real-serial-killers.html

American Psycho and Luka Magnotta : I simply am not there

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 2000 movie American Psycho. They also discuss the controversial Brett Easton Ellis book of the same name published in 1991 (that for some reason Christin decided to read on vacation). They discuss the hilarity of Christian Bale’s wonderful performance as the titular psycho, dinner reservations, Chloe Sevigny and the thought of psychopaths walking among us. 

Then Christin terrifies Chris with the true story of the murderer (and real life Patrick Bateman) Luka Magnotta and his victim Jun Lin. 

What they have been watching: Midsommar director’s cut, Christine (2016)

What are they drinking: J&B scotch whiskey with Diet Pepsi

Midsommar spoilers from 7:51 to 12:25

Movie/book discussion officially starts at: 15:11

True crime discussion starts at: 1:05:47

CW:

murder, violence against women, violence against animals

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources: 

https://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/magnotta-luka/

True Crime Garage podcast: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/true-crime-garage/e/50749847

http://truecrimegarage.podbean.com/e/luka-magnotta-part-2-123/?fbclid=IwAR2xp1NnqHaAA9jbnCkLRka1X1b8biTDNYoBqbUyqeYzwXukv-Nyioq42N0

The Silence of the Lambs and Jerry Brudos: The world’s more interesting with you in it

In this super sized episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1991 Oscar winning movie The Silence of the Lambs. They discuss Chris's childhood memories with the movie, the homophobia and transphobia that surrounds the movie and Jodie Foster's oversized sports coats. How many references will Christin make to the Hannibal TV show? How much Chianti will they drink? Don't wait for the lambs to stop screaming, go ahead and find out!

Then Christin horrifies Chris the true story of one of the serial killers Buffalo Bill is based on: Jerry Brudos. 

CW:

violence against women, rape, murder

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources: 

http://mentalfloss.com/article/61604/18-facts-about-silence-lambs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brudos

https://www.thoughtco.com/serial-killer-jerry-brudos-973122

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/9-chilling-facts-jerry-brudos-075322819.html

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and the Manson murders: And away we go

In this episode Chris and Christin welcome Brian back to discuss Quentin Tarantino's 9th (?) film, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It is not horror, but it is true crime (?) so it falls into their jurisdiction. They discuss the MTV show Are You the One? (Chris only) how many Kill Bill movies there are (Brian and Christin only) and how to get that night time Rick Dalton life.

Then Christin tells Chris the unfortunate true story of the Manson family and tells him a dark secret about her own house. Drink your margarita out of the blender and eat your mac and cheese out of the pot and join them!

What they have been watching: Music documentary Dig!, The Ballad of Buster Scruggs and MTV's Are You the One?

What they are drinking: Frozen margaritas

CW: murder, violence against women

Theme song by Gabbie Watts follow her on Instagram @gabbierotts and @gabbie_watts

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources:

Book Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi

You Must Remember This podcast series on Manson:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-must-remember-manson/id1315652782

Terror Talk podcast series on Manson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/terror-talk-true-crime-psychology-horror-film-podcast/id1435529687

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-09/50-years-later-families-of-manson-victims-still-fighting-to-tell-their-loved-ones-stories

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/are-there-more-victims-that-were-killed-by-the-manson-family

Children of the Corn and Jasmine Richardson: MALACHI!

In this episode Christin and her sister (super fan of the pod!) Caitlin dive into the 1984 horror classic The Children of the Corn. They discuss what first scared Caitlin, the proper procedure when you hit someone with your car and why corn is so scary. Then Christin tells Caitlin the true crime story of Jasmine Richardson. Join us Outlander!

CW:

child death, murder

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson

The Town That Dreaded Sundown and the Texarkana Moonlight Murders: If we do catch him, it’s gonna be a miracle

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1976 cult classic The Town That Dreaded Sundown. They discuss how this movie seems to be part Billy Wilder comedy and part raw 70s horror movie, how it seems to be feeling out the slasher movie formula and try to figure out what in the world life was like in the 1940s. Luckily for Christin it is actually based real events from 1946 and this makes her job pretty easy! So she tells Chris the true Texarkana Moonlight Murders! Spike your punch and join them!

CW:

murder, rape

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Music: Carnival of Tears 2: Into the Light by Matt Oakly http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Matt_Oakley/Horror_Soundtrack_1/Carnival_of_Tears_2_-_Into_The_Light

Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/texarkana-murder-mystery/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texarkana_Moonlight_Murders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87y1_IbJRZE